Katy Saltsman: We Sabotage our Own High Performance >> Learning to Re-Define Life on Our Terms

KATY. SALTSMAN.

This HIGH PERFORMANCE Business Coach & Health Expert for Women is an electric presence.  She is helping women Fuel their Bodies AND Businesses for Unparalleled Success in every aspect.

Together, we dissect the societal molds that often constrict women, emphasizing how Katy's journey—marked by a conservative background to a liberation of truth in wellness—charts a course for women seeking to navigate life's complex waters.

Our conversation goes beyond the surface to examine the pivotal moments of change and the courage it takes to pursue a path that resonates with our deepest values.

The episode strips back the curtain to reveal the raw complexities of personal transformation and professional success.   

We explore the dark periods of reflection that followed major life decisions like divorce, and the perseverance it took to rebuild and find solace in a new city.

We close our enlightening dialogue with actionable discussions on health, fitness, and the emotional weight that often challenges our journey to well-being.  Katy, with her engaging Instagram presence and impactful podcast "Crying Burns Calories," reminds us of the power of vulnerability, both in our personal lives and as female entrepreneurs. 

Join us for this powerful narrative that's sure to inspire your own exploration of authenticity.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:05

Hello, gorgeous, and welcome to the Women on Top podcast. I'm your host, valerie Lynn, and, with over 15 years of business experience, I became truly passionate about finding ways to support and hear from way more women, and what we know to be true is that women thrive when they are in their favorite position on top. On top in business, in relationships, in personal growth and on top in being real and authentic to who the hell they are. So I invite you to sit back and enjoy the Women on Top podcast. All right, I am just so over the moon to be having this conversation here today. So I have sitting here with me Katie Saltzman, which, if you don't know her, you need to go know her right now.

Speaker 1: 0:56

Katie's account is one of my favorites to follow on the Instagram these days, just because of so many different things. You provide so much value, but one of my favorite things about Katie is that she's super authentic and in a very real way where you can connect to it, not just like this fluffy version of authenticity that sometimes gets thrown around online. So I feel very much like I've been along with you on all of kind of the journey that you've been on. So, for those of you that don't know. Katie Saltzman is a nutritionist. She's a trainer, the speaker, a business mentor. I mean, you're kind of a wonder woman of sorts. Katie has also a podcast that I just love called Crying Burns Calories, where she also transparently shares a lot about her life. So I would encourage you to check that out. But I want to just introduce and welcome Katie Saltzman, our Authenticity, queen Maven, wonder Woman, whatever you want.

Speaker 2: 1:59

I love it. Authenticity Queen is the best. I'm honored to be here. I'm so excited to be having this conversation just about realness with women and not fitting in a box when it comes to our health, our happiness, our business and how much growth that brings in our lives.

Speaker 1: 2:15

Right. Have you always been this real and this authentic, or when did you start on this journey? Or was it like this unraveling process? Like, tell me a little bit about that it was an unraveling process.

Speaker 2: 2:28

It was an absolute breakdown, but I think that's how it always is. I didn't honestly feel this way till probably three or four years ago, which is when things really started to take off for me, when I started being really authentic, when I stopped trying to show up like everyone else, when I stopped trying to do health and life and create what everyone else had and started to really go after what I wanted. I lived my life in a box for so much of my life, a box of who I was told I should be, by my family, by society. I love my family so much.

Speaker 2: 3:03

I grew up in a really conservative family and life was meant to look one way you were going to get married young. You were going to have as many kids as you wanted. You stayed in a nine to five job. You played it safe and I'm 37 years old. I just married the love of my life at 36. I ended up getting married to someone that I was with for a really long time, ended up getting divorced. I did things kind of for a really long time, ended up getting divorced. I did things kind of opposite of what my family said I should do now on the back end, but I did them how they thought I should in the beginning and I think that not that it was wrong, it's all I knew. It was all I was ever taught. I didn't know that I could actually be who I wanted to be and create this life that I wanted. And once I started to realize I wasn't living a life that was me at all, I knew I needed to make a lot of changes.

Speaker 1: 3:54

Yeah, I really resonate with a lot of your story because, as I think we've talked before, I also got through a divorce. I went through that experience and grew up kind of as that good girl and on this straight line trajectory and I feel like for me, when I reflect back on what really started to change and shift in my life, it was when I chose to go through that divorce. So I'm curious what that was for you. Do you have a moment when you look back and you think, huh, there was this one like pivotal moment where everything starts to change, and most people tend to have several of those. So what's one of those for you?

Speaker 2: 4:31

The biggest moment for me was actually a conversation with my ex-husband, and this is when I started to. I was a hairstylist, I was a part-time hairstylist and I loved doing hair, but I had no goals. I had no personal drive, anything. And I started to really take care of my health and get really interested in it and realize that the health industry was so backwards when it came to women and I wanted to build something with that. I started to teach other women about this while I was doing hair and I decided to make a pivot into health and fitness and then start to build my own business, because I realized that even big box gyms were doing it wrong. That wasn't going to satisfy what I knew I needed to grow and build. And he sat down with me and he said, katie, I want a normal wife. He wanted, like a stay-at-home wife Not even a stay-at-home wife, but he wanted somebody that was less career-oriented, could put more in and look. But he wanted somebody that was less career oriented, could put more in and look.

Speaker 2: 5:26

I get it, we all want different things, but that moment to me was so hurtful at the time but there was something inside of me where I was like I'm not normal and I don't want to be normal, and I've lived my whole life being normal and it's brought me a life that, on the outside looking in, was ideal. I had a husband that made six figures. I was a part-time hairstylist. I seemed really happy, but I was so filled with stress, anxiety, I had no self-worth. Nothing lit me up and I started to want to build something different. And that wasn't normal and I wanted to be that version of me. And I remember sitting there like in total silence, of not knowing how to respond, and I said the words I'm not normal and that's never going to be me.

Speaker 2: 6:14

And in that moment I had this like little spark inside of me. That was like I felt kind of good. I really liked saying that, and that was the conversation that led to us getting divorced. He said look, I want to be here in Royal Oak Michigan for my entire life. I want to build my life here. This is what I want it to look like. And that felt suffocating to me. And we were in a position where we didn't have any kids. We had been together for so long but we had only been married maybe a year and a half, two years, which felt wild for as long as we had been together maybe a year and a half, two years which felt wild for as long as we had been together and we ended up getting a divorce and, honestly, it's the best thing, not even like taking the situation away from me. Yes, it was the best decision for me, but also for him, because I'm not living a life that lights him up either.

Speaker 1: 6:59

Yeah, I'm just thinking about how, again, there's like so many parallels there, and what I want to ask you about is, like the journey afterwards. And the reason being is because sometimes I feel like people will hear oh, I got divorced, and then everything afterwards sounds great. And for my story, it's like I decided to get divorced and everything went downhill in the sense of like it was a great decision. However, there's a lot of darkness that comes when you start trusting your gut, and I think sometimes we don't talk about that. So I'm curious about, like what was the journey after? You were like okay, I'm not normal, this isn't the thing, and you're really like listening to this loud voice now in your head. That's like something isn't aligned and I don't feel good and I feel suffocated. Then what? Like? What happened after? And not because I want to like be depressing, but because I want to be very real about what that journey is when we start to look at our shadows.

Speaker 2: 7:58

So I'm going to be really vulnerable on this episode and tell people that my journey to freedom and building the life that I want actually didn't happen. After my divorce, I ended up getting very quickly into another relationship. I had so many limiting beliefs around timelines and what my life should look like, and I had this moment where I'm like I'm getting divorced. I had the opportunity to build the life that I wanted and when it came to my business, I did that. I think the best thing that could have happened to my business was getting divorced, because I went from a husband making most of the money to signing a lease on a place that I didn't even know I could pay rent on.

Speaker 2: 8:40

I had my first month's rent and that was it. So I had no plan B. I had quit my job, I had started my business. My only option was to go into my business Again. That came with a lot of tears. It came with a lot of leaning into trust with myself. So, on the business side, that was probably the best thing that could have happened, because I was forced to go after my hope and dreams and that worked really well in my favor. I was forced to go after my hope and dreams and that worked really well in my favor.

Speaker 2: 9:10

When it came to my personal life and my personal growth, I still had these very limiting beliefs that like your life needs to be with someone and you need to get into another relationship, and like you're going to be in your mid thirties and single and what is that going to look like? You know I'm 30, 31 at the time. Um, and I got into a really, really unhealthy, toxic relationship. That didn't seem like it in the beginning, but two years into it was a wildly abusive relationship and that's what led me going from Detroit, moving to Denver, to a city where I knew nobody. But I think the biggest thing for me was understanding that I was repeating patterns, and that was a very honest conversation I had to have with myself.

Speaker 2: 9:46

I'm grateful for the opportunity that I got afterwards, but I went through a really dark personal season of everyone else being the problem when actually I was the problem and I had to realize that I was repeating patterns and getting the same thing. I didn't know who I was and I was making decisions based off of what other people wanted for my life, and because of that, I was repeating patterns and getting the same thing I was being. I didn't know who I was and I was making decisions based off of what other people wanted for my life, and because of that, I was ending up in the same scenarios, with stress and anxiety and not living a life that was meant for me.

Speaker 1: 10:15

Yeah, gosh, I just I feel like we could just spend so much time like going down all the rabbit holes. But I love your story, um, and I love, like how transparent transparent again that you're talking about the journey of here's where it actually went before it started getting better. Because, again, I feel like sometimes we talk about like, oh, just go after your dreams, you only have one life to live, and that is all true. I think that's all true. You should absolutely listen to that intuition when you're being told you're not normal or whatever that you. You know your husband wants a normal wife. You should listen to those. You know gut pulls. But I think then also recognize that there's still a lot there that you might have to go through and so sometimes that messy part, if we don't actually go through it, I feel like it'll come back around. And that's how I experienced. It is like you have those patterns and some of what you kind of were referring to sounded like a similar thing.

Speaker 2: 11:13

So it was a light bulb moment for me because I had been with someone for so long that to me they were the problem. And look, that wasn't the person I was meant to be with forever. And I realize that now. But I also realized in that moment, when you're repeating something, the same pattern, the same behavior, and you're ending up with the same outcome, a lot of times it's not another person problem, it's a you problem. And for me that was hard because I had spent more time, but it was also really enlightening and it took me on this journey. Like my 34th birthday was the biggest like light bulb moment. When I started crying Burns, calories.

Speaker 2: 11:54

I literally started it on my living room floor with like old school Apple headphones. Like you have this beautiful mic right now. My first episodes I was holding the Apple headphones so like wouldn't get fuzzy. It was not a great quality, but I had so much I wanted to say and I think for the first time ever, I wanted to be me. I wanted to tell my story.

Speaker 2: 12:16

Everybody saw this bright, smiling face online and, while that is who I am, they didn't know that I was going through all of these things and struggles. And so, at 34 years old, I decided I was not only starting a podcast, but I was moving from Detroit to Denver to a city where I didn't know anyone, drove an SUV across country by myself which sounds kind of crazy and I also committed to not dating for an entire year because I had spent my whole life with somebody and I never took time to figure out who I am and that's a really scary age to do that. But I was making the commitment of I am not going to live life on other people's timelines. I'm not going to go on dating apps and meet somebody and put my energy into other people when I haven't even taken time to put my energy into me.

Speaker 1: 13:03

Yeah. So as you were going through these dark times, who was it that was your guiding light? Like, did you have one or two people that were there for you as you were in your darkest moments?

Speaker 2: 13:16

I. Most people thought I was crazy. I'm not going to lie. I feel like everyone was like Katie, are you okay? Are you doing okay?

Speaker 2: 13:25

I remember my best friend hates when I tell this story because she's like you're making me sound so bad.

Speaker 2: 13:30

But the day before I moved to Denver, I went out to coffee with my best friend and she was like, don't you just want to get on a dating app and meet someone and have kids? And I was like no, like I just came out of a marriage and then got right into a relationship. That was just like a roller coaster. That's actually the last thing I want to do, but it was also in that moment that gave me a lot of peace that I was making the right decision, because I wasn't around the energy that I wanted to be around. I'm lucky that, given how conservative I've grown up, my family has been wildly, wildly supportive. When you move to a city and you're very lonely and you're also processing a lot of heartbreak and a lot of bad decisions that you made in your life, you have a lot of ugly cries on the kitchen floor with your mom, and so she was probably the person that was there for me the most, and yeah, I would probably say my mom.

Speaker 1: 14:23

Yeah, I love that. It's like we need one person somewhere along the line, even if I would say this too even if it's not like a best friend or a parent, even if it's like you read a book and you have this author or somebody that you that kind of is just a little bit of that light while you're in some of those dark times, while you do question if you're sane and if you are going crazy or not. I have had some of those. When I did my eat, pray, love, airbnb adventure and I was like, guess what? I'm selling everything that I own and renting out my condo and I'm just going to figure it out. I had a couple of people that looked at me and were like, do we need to intervene? Like, is this?

Speaker 2: 15:01

is an intervention required in this situation? Are we well or are we unwell? Yeah, I had a lot of those, but for me, I'm actually glad that I didn't have this like massive support group. That was like this is the best thing you've ever made, because I had to lean into my intuition for the first time in my entire life and that was so powerful and I will never let that not lead the way, because I spent my whole life like ignoring it.

Speaker 1: 15:26

Yes, I think I agree. One of the most powerful things that I think anyone can do is to get good with their own company, and once you have a little bit more of that self-relationship, I think everything then outwardly expands in a different way than you never would have thought. And then that's when you met your now husband.

Speaker 2: 15:44

I know my whole life changed when I was able to lean into myself and grow and expand. I always tell the story. I remember when I was working with a self-discovery coach. Coming out of that relationship it was pretty traumatic. So I had a therapist and I also had a self-discovery coach and again I'm by myself in a city where you don't know a single human. That's a very bold move to make and I had to get to know myself a little bit more. But my self-discovery coach said Katie, when was the last time that you saw yourself having fun?

Speaker 2: 16:16

And I was like I don't know, like I have fun when I go to the gym and she's like bicep curls are not an option at all. They're not on the list.

Speaker 1: 16:24

No working out.

Speaker 2: 16:31

Like when was the last time you had fun? And I truly could not think of a moment in like recent times where I saw myself having fun and doing things for joy. And I was like last time I can think would be like when I was younger, dancing with my girlfriends and she's like okay, she's like you're going to go sign up for a dance class and that was the first. That's what started me like the whole dancing on social media, because I found so much joy in dancing Like I went to a beginner hip hop dance class at 34 years old. There's nothing more humbling on this earth than you can do to go to that because you are with a bunch of 20 year olds who are not beginners by any means. But that moment sparked so much joy for me and I learned so much about myself and I also learned that I love dance and now you see me dancing all the time.

Speaker 1: 17:12

Yes, you are a dancing queen as well. I think we need authenticity queen also dancing queen. I really appreciate, like the journey again of all the coaching and then kind of that reminder of what brings you joy, because we often, you know, can brush that aside so quickly. So, as you were talking, I'm also reflecting on your relationships and I'm thinking about this relationship that you've had with health, and would you agree that this is like your longest relationship that you've had, and is that one of the things that you know is kind of your mission and that's why you love what you are doing now for women.

Speaker 2: 17:54

Yeah, I would say it's my mission. Changing the conversation around health and the relationship with ourself is our longest standing relationship and what breaks my heart is most women were navigating life with zero self-worth, with not understanding that health should add fun and freedom and joy to our life, and most of the time it's sucking the absolute life out of us. And also we look at health as just physical and our physical body, and it's just as much mental and emotional as it is physical. And so often if we can get the mental and emotional in check and actually have self-worth and confidence in ourself, the physical becomes so much easier.

Speaker 1: 18:32

Yes, so earlier you mentioned how you know gyms and some of the types of workouts and just health industry in general, and I agree with this, but that they are getting it wrong for women, basically. So what are some of those things that we see all of the time that maybe are just it's not correct. It's not the right narrative that we should be listening to, especially as women?

Speaker 2: 18:56

Yeah, I work with a lot of women in their thirties and forties who feel like their body is completely broken, um, who went through years and years of the diet culture, the under eating, under fueling, and now we're dealing with a generation of women with massive hormone imbalances, with metabolisms that are downregulated, feeling like, no matter what they do, they just put on weight, not understanding how to regulate stress, how much sleep plays a role, how much building muscle plays a role versus just weight loss.

Speaker 2: 19:26

We have a lot of women that are just weight loss driven or have been their whole lives, and understanding that there's like so much more to the picture.

Speaker 2: 19:35

So I think the biggest thing working in gyms is I realized that, like a lot of gyms not old gyms, but a lot of gyms, not old gyms, but a lot of gyms people are just a number and when you're training somebody, even though I had the best intention, training them for a half hour or an hour, that was making such a small impact on their life, and training wasn't actually what was holding them back. It was their mindset, it was their self worth, it was their nutrition. It was their self-worth. It was their nutrition. It was not knowing their body.

Speaker 2: 20:03

Women actually don't understand their body and hormones and metabolism and how you can get it to work for you. So simple and easy, but we're never taught that and trainers aren't really taught that either, if I'm being honest. Some trainers have nutrition certifications but trainers usually stick to building muscle right, proper movement, which look, there's so much benefit in progressive overload and you know the right movements and longevity but when it comes to nutrition, they're really taught macros and a lot of times that's that's not even like chipping a layer into what we need to work on.

Speaker 1: 20:41

So you work with a lot of high performing, motivated, high achieving women. Yeah, what are some of the common themes that you see as you're working with them, as it relates to health, but also just kind of lifestyle in general?

Speaker 2: 20:59

They feel successful in every aspect of their life except taking care of themselves. They're overachievers. They will say yes to everyone else, they will check off everyone else's to-do list without checking off theirs first, and they're trying to pour from an empty cup. And when you're trying to pour from an empty cup like you will never get to where you want to be.

Speaker 1: 21:19

Yeah, that is resonating so much with me and I feel like you know, especially for this audience, um, who's listening in, this is so pertinent to probably what they're experiencing. So the other question that I have is this health world, and there's so much, there's just so much that we get inundated with information, especially social media. So if I'm a high achieving woman and I kind of know like I, I'm burned out a little bit. I am definitely on that train of I don't feel like I'm in balance with these things. What are some of the first things that you go to Like? Okay, let's start here, let's focus here, and I know you probably get that question all the time, which is why you're looking at me smiling and I know you probably get that question all the time, which is why you're looking at me smiling.

Speaker 2: 22:01

I actually I love this conversation because it's drastically different from where most women start. So most women are like I'm stressed out, I'm burned out, I can't do this anymore, I don't like the way that I look, my clothes don't fit and they're like that's what they function at all the time. And then they're like, okay, let me skip sleep and get up at the gym tomorrow morning and crush a workout Right and well. I love that mindset and I think that there's so much benefit in strength training for our mental health, for our physical health. A lot of times, that's not the first step that we need to take, understanding that when something is going on in our body, like, let's say, we have a hormone imbalance. Let's say we have a hormone imbalance, let's say, um, we have insulin sensitivity. We're not, you know, getting a lot of nutrient density in our food. Our blood sugar is all over the place. Working out can only dysregulate those things more. And most women if that's what you've been functioning at for a long time and that's your go-to, you have a metabolic rate that's completely down-regulated. So putting more stress on the body is the last thing that you want to do. So stress.

Speaker 2: 23:07

Cortisol is a catabolic hormone, which means it's breaking things down Not always a bad thing, but high amounts of stress can be a really bad thing, because the last thing that's going to happen is you're going to rebuild muscle. When cortisol is high, it's physically impossible to be able to see the composition change that you want to see. Also, understanding a cortisol is high over an extended period of time. Our body can only produce so much, so what does it do? It pulls from progesterone to help produce that cortisol, creating a hormone imbalance with our sex hormones, which makes it even harder creating a hormone imbalance with our sex hormones, which makes it even harder.

Speaker 1: 23:47

Oh my gosh. Okay, so how do what? What?

Speaker 2: 23:48

do we do? Yeah, I know, I know. So this is going to be different for each person, but I think it's the conversation of how do we add back to our health instead of take away. Look, I'm a trainer through and through. I know we're just like so geared towards workouts and burning calories, and I hear you and I want you to do that, but I also want you to understand we have to have a foundation to be able to support that.

Speaker 2: 24:09

So the number one thing I would say for women is we have to go in, and the top tier hormones are blood sugar, insulin and cortisol, so we can go after the gym and we can work that in.

Speaker 2: 24:20

But also, are we eating three balanced meals a day that regulate blood sugar? So usually one of the first things I'll do for women is target breakfast, making sure we're eating 25 grams of protein at breakfast, making sure we're not having coffee before we're eating breakfast. These are two things that can make a massive impact on your blood sugar. Like you, have the ability every single day to set your blood sugar up for success or for dysregulation, and making love to the snack cupboard at 3 PM, and most of us have the opposite, and it's really simple fixes. So if I were somebody in that situation, I would say no coffee before breakfast. I won't cut your coffee out completely, but let's get some food in our system before. Have a breakfast that has 25 grams of protein and at your meals in general, making sure you're having a meal that has a protein, carb and a fat and that has some fiber or color, which means we're getting fruits and vegetables.

Speaker 1: 25:19

I have some work to do, which means we're getting fruits and vegetables. I have some work to do. I've literally been thinking that this week because I have not been consistent and I can tell. But here's the thing I can tell, right. So all the things that you're saying absolutely make sense and it's reflected in my energy, in how present I am, in how chaotic I feel, in just my work or whatever's going on, and so I really like this is lighting me up in the sense of, okay, we're going to redo some things and just add in a couple more habits that are going to be really supportive. Why do you, why do you like working with badass, high achieving women? Why is that a passion point for you?

Speaker 2: 25:56

Because I am one. Yeah, that is a great answer. And my health worked against me for so long. I lived in a body that I thought was broken and I went to the health industry to have them help me fix it. And I was told to work out, to eat macros, to cut calories, like. There was a point where I was teaching, you know, like 15 group fitness classes a week. I was eating anywhere from 1,200 to 1,500 calories, which is wildly under fueling my body. Now I eat well over 2,000 and I was the heaviest I had ever been. And it made no sense to me and never at any point did a single person say Katie, you need to do less, maybe you need to eat more, maybe you're overly stressing your body out, right? Nobody ever talked to me about those things. And I have these light bulb moments.

Speaker 2: 26:48

I run a group called Master your Metabolism, specifically for high performers, and I have these conversations because they think they're going to come in and I'm going to cut all of their calories and I'm going to give them this strength training program that's going to change their life. And while there's a strength training program included in there, a lot of times we add calories in and it's these small shifts and changes that we're making that regulate blood sugar, that decrease cortisol. All of a sudden they're seeing way more results off of not hustling, feeling calmer, a better nervous system. They're building muscle more right. All of these things have a domino effect in our body where, just if we're just focusing on cutting calories and burning calories, we're stuck in this like hamster wheel versus like a domino effect. One thing affects all things.

Speaker 1: 27:35

Yeah, you know, I think it's also something that contributes to all other aspects of life as well, and so that's something I've been really noticing, even for myself. Is that health, is this thing that sometimes I have been like, oh that I'll get to that you?

Speaker 1: 27:51

can do this? Oh, I'll get to that. Yeah, I'll do. I'll do the workout at some point, or I'll add in more things, and I'm realizing, though, if you want to achieve more, this is the way to get there. This is like the road you have to start with, and I think that's the other misconception that we are kind of unaware of, especially for women, like in the business world or in corporate or they're entrepreneurs and they're just driving. Sometimes this concept feels a little fluffy, but in reality, I think it's actually the foundation that we've been missing out on this whole time.

Speaker 2: 28:23

A hundred percent. One of my favorite quotes is your health should add years to your life and it should also add life to your years, missing out on that second portion, because we're looking at health as adding maybe, maybe, some longevity, but really we're just like how do I feel in my body at this moment? Not understanding that this could add so much to our lives. And it was that journey that actually got me to business coaching.

Speaker 2: 28:50

Outside of the fact that I've built a lot of really successful businesses is that women were coming to me. Female entrepreneurs were coming to me, so burned out, their business was tanking, they had no energy for themselves, they weren't doing anything and they're wanting. They're like I need to figure out my business and more structure for my business. And I'm like do you need to figure out more structure? Or like when was the last time you slept? When was the last time that you did something for you? Like when was the last time you felt good in your body? When was the last time you felt good in your mind, understanding that if you build a business off of those two things, you'll be 10 times more successful, just in general.

Speaker 1: 29:26

Yeah, how? What are some, just really quickly, a couple of things that you are doing right now that feel really nourishing and supporting for yourself.

Speaker 2: 29:37

That's a really good question. So one of the things for me is movement that brings me joy. I will always. I'm a strength training girly. I lift, I love it through and through. But also there are other things I want to do that bring me joy, like I love going on hikes. I love dancing right Dancing metabolically if we're looking at it, things like dancing, pilates or like step classes anything with a beat is my jam.

Speaker 2: 30:03

Those metabolically might not be the best option for a lot of women, but also understand that the more joy we have in our lives, the more serotonin is released, the healthier our gut is. All of these things make an impact. So if you're moving and you're hating all the movements that you're doing, understand you're not going to be consistent with that long-term. So, yes, I do the things that are great for me metabolically, but one of the things I always lead with is like what brings me joy?

Speaker 2: 30:29

The second thing I'm doing and this is actually a realization I just made, because I had a pretty hard week about a week and a half, two weeks ago and I had to take off social media and take off work for an entire week and I realized in that moment how much, I don't ever disconnect. I talked about this on a podcast episode, but it's really weird. When you're wired for high performing, when you're wired for go and do and how can I be better all the time You're me personally, my nervous system feels less safe and calm. It feels more safe when I'm like what is crazy? Chaos, like that feels better to me than calm and that's like wildly unhealthy.

Speaker 1: 31:12

Yeah, I actually was just having this conversation last night with my partner and he was like I feel like you've been absent and not like in a bad, we were just having a conversation and he's like I just feel, you know, and I just have been really focused and just getting things done. But I so deeply resonate with that and I listened to your episode recently and I was seeing some of your posts and it was like the thing I didn't want to hear, but also it was such a good reminder of, like this is actually what I need, because right now I'm so on the phone, I'm so on the computer, I'm so in my head about what's coming, what's next, how do I create and how do I do, do, do, and so I I deeply appreciate that you shared that, because it was really impactful for me to hear and I needed to hear that.

Speaker 2: 31:53

So yeah, it was a big light bulb moment for me. One of the things that um was said to me from my husband Max is he said that week that I took off that he's never felt more loved.

Speaker 2: 32:07

And that, to me, was one of the sweetest things he could say, and also I love that he felt more loved. But the biggest difference was that I was disconnected. I wasn't on social media scrolling all the time, so of course he felt more loved. So the second thing I'm working on and bringing this back around, I promise is disconnecting more, having my time where I'm working and I can have intentional work. Like hustle will always be a part of me. It's just who I am as a human and that's okay. That's actually got me to where I am now. Like hustle can actually work towards you, for you, if you know how to turn it off. But I'm working on turning it off Like weekends are for max, nights are for max. I have my hours that I'm working and I'm going to be focused during that, but then I'm truly going to disconnect when I'm not.

Speaker 1: 32:51

I wish you the best with that Cause that that is very hard for me to do and I'm sure and I say that with love Like I love that you're doing that, because I think it's going to become more of a practice, like it'll get more of a habitual thing. That'll feel good, versus, I think in the beginning you're like, oh, I have to like disconnect and I just want to work and I'll just answer this thing while we're in the car, like you know, it's just keeps going.

Speaker 2: 33:21

You're like wait, what did you say? Sorry, repeat that. And all of a sudden, now we're back into it, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. And when I was off social media intentionally, those were actually really really beautiful moments where I realized that I was having better conversations, I felt better. But it literally took me three days of being off until I felt normal. It was like three days of talking myself off a ledge. To be like this is okay.

Speaker 1: 33:38

You got this, which is also a sign that it's exactly what you need A hundred percent. Who is somebody that you think of when you think of a woman on top who comes to mind for you?

Speaker 2: 33:52

Honestly, probably Keisha, my good friend Keisha, which I know a lot of you on here might know, but Keisha is really authentic. She's very vulnerable with the seasons that she's going through and I also feel like she's a step ahead of me in every aspect. Right, I really want to. Max and I are trying to have kids and she just had a kid and now she's changing business so she can spend more time with her family and have more freedom, and she just represents a lot of what I think is really, really important and what isn't represented, and to me, you're always on top with that.

Speaker 1: 34:26

Oh my gosh, such a good response, and I love that you said that, because we have an episode with her that will be on the show. Okay, so where? Where can people find you? They're going to, they're just going to be addicted to you, like I was when I found your social media, and even more so after listening to this. So where can they find more about you?

Speaker 2: 34:44

I hang out the most on Instagram. My Instagram is Katie Saltzman. Outside of that, I have a podcast called Crying Burns Calories. It's one of my favorite platforms. Yes, we talk a lot about health. I have a lot of episodes teaching you about health, but we also talk about relationships mindset. I have hype episodes of episodes teaching you about health, but we also talk about relationships mindset. I have hype episodes that are like 10-minute episodes just to shift your mindset. And really we talk about a lot of times the weight we need to drop has nothing to do with the weight on our bodies.

Speaker 1: 35:11

Oh, I love it. It's such a good podcast. I love that you have been doing it consistently. It's so good. Do you have anything upcoming that people should be aware of or looking out for?

Speaker 2: 35:20

Yeah. So if you are an entrepreneur in the business world, I have a business mastermind that is dropping in the end of April. We're starting it in the beginning of May. I only take eight women for this, so I do it twice a year. I take eight women. It's a four-month mastermind with a retreat at the end. It is the best thing ever. And then, if you're in the health world, I have one-on-one clients. I also have group programs, so feel free to reach out to me. You will always get a response from me in the DMs. I'm a human on the other side, no bots answering them, so feel free to reach out with any questions that you have.

Speaker 1: 35:54

Oh my gosh, I love it. I love the mastermind piece. It's going to be just amazing. So I have. Finally, I love to ask I'm asking everybody this to leave a quote for the next guest, not knowing who the next guest is. So what's so interesting is I interviewed somebody that you don't know her and I said what's something that, or just like a piece of advice? You know, what's something that's coming to you right now? And she said you are where you need to be, everything is aligned and on time. And I told her, I said you know, I think some, for some reason, that's going to resonate, and I had no idea, you know. Anyway, just given some circumstances recently, I felt like that was pretty powerful and I would love to ask you to do the same. If there's anything that you think of right now, just a piece of advice, something that's maybe sitting with you recently, if you could leave that and I will share that with the next guest, not knowing, yeah, this is actually a really cool thing that you're doing.

Speaker 2: 36:53

I just want to say that, like I think it's great because we have no idea who the next guest is, and that quote does resonate. I feel like I don't have any particular fancy quotes that I can think of off the top of my head, but honestly, I feel like most women are in a position where they're not living their authentic life, and the more you can lean into who you are and finding your authenticity and leading with that, you will lead a life filled with joy, freedom, more abundance, more gratitude than you could ever imagine, because you're staying true to yourself.

Speaker 1: 37:28

Oh, so good. I love that you always come back to that piece, and I think it just shines through so much in your character too. So you're not just saying it, you're actually. You are the embodiment of that, and I just deeply, deeply appreciate you. This has been the most amazing conversation. Thank you again for spending time with me. I, I just I admire you so much. I love following your journey. Thank you for all the wisdom you shared. This is such a juicy episode. I just want to keep talking to you for the next week. We just hang out this weekend Like what are you?

Speaker 2: 38:02

doing. No, I'm kidding, all right. Thank you so much for having me on.

Speaker 1: 38:07

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